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steveholtvstheuniverse:

lmao like the only time i EVER see hard disney fans even mention ghibli and miyazaki in comparison to disney films is in light of disney’s own mistakes and laziness like damn y’all need to calm down
lemme teach you a lil’ somethin’ somethin’ about stylistic choices in animation and sheer laziness
STYLISTIC choices is about having the full capability of creating characters separate from the previous protagonists while at the same time tying them to the studio that produced them.


And that’s not even scratching the surface.

Considering that a good portion of Ghibli’s library consists of LEAD FEMALE PROTAGONISTS who are usually very young, they need to find a set balance between recognizable and unique.
Ghibli was founded on traditional art and the studio still holds many of those values with it. This is of course including hand-drawn animation in which there is no single model, only the same character drawn over and over again. Is this about CGI vs traditional? No, both can and have provided beautiful films and scenes but it’s not about which one deserves more recognition. It’s about the methods used and how the choices for each one vary. I only bring up the animation methods because it’s part of the reason as to WHY these characters are so simplistic in design.
Still though, they need each lead character to stick to the Ghibli/Miyazaki style to a certain extent. They need to share certain qualities to make them fall in line with the rest of Ghibli’s library.
I mean, they have their differences but they’re obviously Ghibli characters so okay they all have relatively small eyebrows (though considering that they are Japanese that ties in with their ethnicity but OKAY moving on), they all have the eye highlight thing going on, and they all have very non-pronounced noses. I suppose yeah those are all the same. They do shift but those characteristics are roughly the same.
Still though, that isn’t a problem nor is it blatant same-facing. All LAIKA characters have skewed noses, all Dreamworks characters have thin noses, and all Aardman characters have bulgy eyes. Does that mean they’re same-facing? No. It means they’re sticking to stylistic choices to keep themselves separate from the competition.
Don Bluth MADE the choice to stick to a style closely resembling Disney. You know what happened? A whole generation grew up thinking that Anastasia and Thumbelina were both DISNEY films, not Bluth and Fox animation.
There’s a reason why studios tend to go for their own set style.
But hey! Want even more evidence that it’s a stylistic choice?
Because THE VERY SAME CHOICES CAN BE SAID FOR THE DUDES


Save for Haku because he’s a fuckin’ dragon.

While gender is never really brought up in Ghibli films, masculinity and femininity are both neutral here, it’s safe to say that their designs and treatment are both equal. Ghibli isn’t out to make exclusively beautiful/handsome characters, they make them as simple as possible to keep them relatable and much more easier to manage.
The difference here is that Disney has always set out to make their MALES different while sticking their females to the same “doe eyed, small nose, thin lips” ideal. Yes, there is a set Disney style and it has always focused on those features and that necessarily isn’t a bad thing. It’s the Disney style. HOWEVER it seems to only apply to their females. Even worse is their marketing of said females.


GOTTA KEEP THEM GURLS PURTY

The Disney style has shifted from time to time and it shows evidence that it CAN include more diverse female designs. Both Kida and Calhoun are wonderful examples of this. It’s not as if Disney hasn’t evolved or changed their views on female characters to a certain extent. Unfortunately, said shifts haven’t always worked out in our favor or headed in the right direction. It wasn’t until Tangled that Disney came out with it’s true “get richer quicker” scheme with their female leads.


watch as i shift into MAXIMUM PUNZEL-DRIVE

As of late it’s Disney’s sheer laziness when it comes to female design and their own avarice that has caused SUUUUCH a dramatic shift in how fans are taking the Disney style now. When Ghibli audiences and fans never look at a new movie and go “oh it’s Chihiro but tiny” or “oh it’s Chihiro but on a broom.” That is the set style, not a lazy copy-paste.
But hey, let’s bring in OTHER females to see how this works out. I mean, the Ghibli style is prevalent to ALL of their characters so surely they all the parents look exactly like their children.
Let’s look at these lovely lady leads and compare them to their parents.


Congrats, kids, you’re all adopted!

WEIRDLY ENOUGH all of the characters and their parents (if they have any) share same characteristics while at the same time remaining completely unique to each other. It’s almost as if they also take after their father and/or previous generations of their familly. Haha, genetics!
But okay, let’s be a little more fair with Disney.
Let’s look at two families with two daughters.


Mitosis or go home

There is having stylistic choices and there is being lazy.
There is creating a character with similarities to their parent and there is making a recolor of your lead character.
There is creating simple designs for a traditionally animated film and there is reusing the same model because it worked so well the first time.
There is being a small Tokyo-based studio with 300 employees and there is being a large American animation studio with 800+ employees.
THAT is why no one ever complains about Ghibli’s approach to character design and THAT is why Disney doesn’t even come close to Miyazaki.
Let’s finish this off with some MORE wonderful Ghibli characters (most of which being my personal favorites so they belong on here too.)

Now go watch more Ghibli.

steveholtvstheuniverse:

lmao like the only time i EVER see hard disney fans even mention ghibli and miyazaki in comparison to disney films is in light of disney’s own mistakes and laziness like damn y’all need to calm down

lemme teach you a lil’ somethin’ somethin’ about stylistic choices in animation and sheer laziness

STYLISTIC choices is about having the full capability of creating characters separate from the previous protagonists while at the same time tying them to the studio that produced them.

And that’s not even scratching the surface.

Considering that a good portion of Ghibli’s library consists of LEAD FEMALE PROTAGONISTS who are usually very young, they need to find a set balance between recognizable and unique.

Ghibli was founded on traditional art and the studio still holds many of those values with it. This is of course including hand-drawn animation in which there is no single model, only the same character drawn over and over again. Is this about CGI vs traditional? No, both can and have provided beautiful films and scenes but it’s not about which one deserves more recognition. It’s about the methods used and how the choices for each one vary. I only bring up the animation methods because it’s part of the reason as to WHY these characters are so simplistic in design.

Still though, they need each lead character to stick to the Ghibli/Miyazaki style to a certain extent. They need to share certain qualities to make them fall in line with the rest of Ghibli’s library.

I mean, they have their differences but they’re obviously Ghibli characters so okay they all have relatively small eyebrows (though considering that they are Japanese that ties in with their ethnicity but OKAY moving on), they all have the eye highlight thing going on, and they all have very non-pronounced noses. I suppose yeah those are all the same. They do shift but those characteristics are roughly the same.

Still though, that isn’t a problem nor is it blatant same-facing. All LAIKA characters have skewed noses, all Dreamworks characters have thin noses, and all Aardman characters have bulgy eyes. Does that mean they’re same-facing? No. It means they’re sticking to stylistic choices to keep themselves separate from the competition.

Don Bluth MADE the choice to stick to a style closely resembling Disney. You know what happened? A whole generation grew up thinking that Anastasia and Thumbelina were both DISNEY films, not Bluth and Fox animation.

There’s a reason why studios tend to go for their own set style.

But hey! Want even more evidence that it’s a stylistic choice?

Because THE VERY SAME CHOICES CAN BE SAID FOR THE DUDES

Save for Haku because he’s a fuckin’ dragon.

While gender is never really brought up in Ghibli films, masculinity and femininity are both neutral here, it’s safe to say that their designs and treatment are both equal. Ghibli isn’t out to make exclusively beautiful/handsome characters, they make them as simple as possible to keep them relatable and much more easier to manage.

The difference here is that Disney has always set out to make their MALES different while sticking their females to the same “doe eyed, small nose, thin lips” ideal. Yes, there is a set Disney style and it has always focused on those features and that necessarily isn’t a bad thing. It’s the Disney style. HOWEVER it seems to only apply to their females. Even worse is their marketing of said females.

GOTTA KEEP THEM GURLS PURTY

The Disney style has shifted from time to time and it shows evidence that it CAN include more diverse female designs. Both Kida and Calhoun are wonderful examples of this. It’s not as if Disney hasn’t evolved or changed their views on female characters to a certain extent. Unfortunately, said shifts haven’t always worked out in our favor or headed in the right direction. It wasn’t until Tangled that Disney came out with it’s true “get richer quicker” scheme with their female leads.

watch as i shift into MAXIMUM PUNZEL-DRIVE

As of late it’s Disney’s sheer laziness when it comes to female design and their own avarice that has caused SUUUUCH a dramatic shift in how fans are taking the Disney style now. When Ghibli audiences and fans never look at a new movie and go “oh it’s Chihiro but tiny” or “oh it’s Chihiro but on a broom.” That is the set style, not a lazy copy-paste.

But hey, let’s bring in OTHER females to see how this works out. I mean, the Ghibli style is prevalent to ALL of their characters so surely they all the parents look exactly like their children.

Let’s look at these lovely lady leads and compare them to their parents.

Congrats, kids, you’re all adopted!

WEIRDLY ENOUGH all of the characters and their parents (if they have any) share same characteristics while at the same time remaining completely unique to each other. It’s almost as if they also take after their father and/or previous generations of their familly. Haha, genetics!

But okay, let’s be a little more fair with Disney.

Let’s look at two families with two daughters.

Mitosis or go home

There is having stylistic choices and there is being lazy.

There is creating a character with similarities to their parent and there is making a recolor of your lead character.

There is creating simple designs for a traditionally animated film and there is reusing the same model because it worked so well the first time.

There is being a small Tokyo-based studio with 300 employees and there is being a large American animation studio with 800+ employees.

THAT is why no one ever complains about Ghibli’s approach to character design and THAT is why Disney doesn’t even come close to Miyazaki.

Let’s finish this off with some MORE wonderful Ghibli characters (most of which being my personal favorites so they belong on here too.)

Now go watch more Ghibli.

  #long post    #disney    #ghibli    #critique    #good read    #wow    #all of this    #critisism  

theotherwesley:

disneyprincetimothy:

Long before the Maleficent movie, Disney released a hilarious book called My Side of the Story where Maleficent and Aurora both told their respective sides of the story with some great illustrations. Maleficent claims of course she was only looking out for Aurora and Phillip’s best interests, despite those pesky fairies. And poor Phillip is constantly described by both sides as always being a total mess and “smelling like a horse.” (Also Aurora says he has dimples so deep you could ”plant corn in them” and “deep enough to mine for gold.”)

THAT IS ADORABLE????!? oAo

  #maleficent    #disney    #aurora    #sleeping beauty  
steveholtvstheuniverse:

octobergal15:

lifeisbliss:

octobergal15:

everets:

are these 3 different characters

WHO. FUCKING. CARES.
EITHER ENJOY THE GODDAMN MOVIE. OR DON’T.
WE’VE BEATEN THIS GODDAMN HORSE INTO THE FUCKING CORE OF THE PLANET.
UUURGGHHHH

Actually I care. If it’s still happening it needs to be pointed out again. I like my characters with more diversity

Good for you. Guess what? So do I. But this movie works as fucking is and we’ve been over this fucking argument since we first saw promos. 
Get the fuck over it and move the fuck on.
You don’t like the movie? Ignore it. The rest of us do.

Actually, no. This movie DOESN’T work which is why this argument needs to come up over and over again until we stop seeing articles praising Frozen for being Disney’s “best.”
There IS no ignoring it when it’s plastered everywhere, where it’s STILL played constantly in stores, when “Let It Go” still pops up in the backdrop of every major shopping center.
There is especially NO ignoring it if you’re in animation.
It’s hard to ignore such blatant copy-paste characters succeeding in popular media while you are slaving over character design courses and being forced to make unique silhouettes for each character.
It’s hard to ignore such POOR writing and characterization when you’re doing everything in your power to keep your OWN characters from overused tropes and from become just stereotype.
It’s hard to ignore such a weak story with weak representation on a website full of people who constantly sing Frozen praises and put it on such a pedestal that they create scenarios with homosexual characters just to given Frozen even MORE praise.
It’s SUPER hard to ignore it because you can’t even try to bring up a DISCUSSION on Frozen and it’s flaws because everyone gets so ridiculously defensive over any criticisms on this film and instead of being met with cohesive arguments we are left with such weak and trivial excuses like:
"Well, they’re related! My mother and I are also carbon copies!"
"Sami people are white! I should know because Europe!"
"If you don’t like it so much why don’t you just get your own multi-billion dollar company and make your OWN film?"
"Animation and character design is hard! Drawing unique female characters is super difficult so of course they’re all the same! Give Disney a break! They’ve only been at it for 80 years!"
"DON’T LIKE IT? IGNORE IT"
So long as this movie gets praised over other films that have succeeded where it failed, we won’t “get over it.”
Because the public were taken in by this trope-fest and deemed that the art design was better than Dreamworks’ The Croods, that the writing was better than La Parti’s Ernest and Celestine, that the story was better than Pixar’s Monsters University, and that the animation was better than Miyazaki’s The Wind Rises. Clipping animation beat out Miyazaki.
The only way this movie works is as a blatant money grab with no regard to the actual art of animation.
So long as that wins over the artform, no. We won’t get over it.

steveholtvstheuniverse:

octobergal15:

lifeisbliss:

octobergal15:

everets:

are these 3 different characters

WHO. FUCKING. CARES.

EITHER ENJOY THE GODDAMN MOVIE. OR DON’T.

WE’VE BEATEN THIS GODDAMN HORSE INTO THE FUCKING CORE OF THE PLANET.

UUURGGHHHH

Actually I care. If it’s still happening it needs to be pointed out again. I like my characters with more diversity

Good for you. Guess what? So do I. But this movie works as fucking is and we’ve been over this fucking argument since we first saw promos. 

Get the fuck over it and move the fuck on.

You don’t like the movie? Ignore it. The rest of us do.

Actually, no. This movie DOESN’T work which is why this argument needs to come up over and over again until we stop seeing articles praising Frozen for being Disney’s “best.”

There IS no ignoring it when it’s plastered everywhere, where it’s STILL played constantly in stores, when “Let It Go” still pops up in the backdrop of every major shopping center.

There is especially NO ignoring it if you’re in animation.

It’s hard to ignore such blatant copy-paste characters succeeding in popular media while you are slaving over character design courses and being forced to make unique silhouettes for each character.

It’s hard to ignore such POOR writing and characterization when you’re doing everything in your power to keep your OWN characters from overused tropes and from become just stereotype.

It’s hard to ignore such a weak story with weak representation on a website full of people who constantly sing Frozen praises and put it on such a pedestal that they create scenarios with homosexual characters just to given Frozen even MORE praise.

It’s SUPER hard to ignore it because you can’t even try to bring up a DISCUSSION on Frozen and it’s flaws because everyone gets so ridiculously defensive over any criticisms on this film and instead of being met with cohesive arguments we are left with such weak and trivial excuses like:

  • "Well, they’re related! My mother and I are also carbon copies!"
  • "Sami people are white! I should know because Europe!"
  • "If you don’t like it so much why don’t you just get your own multi-billion dollar company and make your OWN film?"
  • "Animation and character design is hard! Drawing unique female characters is super difficult so of course they’re all the same! Give Disney a break! They’ve only been at it for 80 years!"
  • "DON’T LIKE IT? IGNORE IT"

So long as this movie gets praised over other films that have succeeded where it failed, we won’t “get over it.”

Because the public were taken in by this trope-fest and deemed that the art design was better than Dreamworks’ The Croods, that the writing was better than La Parti’s Ernest and Celestine, that the story was better than Pixar’s Monsters University, and that the animation was better than Miyazaki’s The Wind Rises. Clipping animation beat out Miyazaki.

The only way this movie works is as a blatant money grab with no regard to the actual art of animation.

So long as that wins over the artform, no. We won’t get over it.

  #frozen    #disney    #rant    #critique    #critisism  
feministdisney:

everets:

are these 3 different characters

facial animation game not strong

feministdisney:

everets:

are these 3 different characters

facial animation game not strong

  #frozen    #disney    #screenshot    #wow    #good job disney  

animationandsoforth:

Character designs for Hercules

  #hercules    #disney    #concept art    #yes    #i love this movie    #and all its obvious flaws  

kevinbolk:

A few of my issues are explained pretty well in this one, and why I get a little frustrated that so many people sing its praises.  And I love how it points out (with CHARTS) that Disney films have been “breaking the Disney mold” pretty much since the beginning. It’s amazing how easily we come to accept a supposed “truth” without really thinking about it.

  #frozen    #good read    #I agree 100% with all of this    #I'm also sick of people praising this movie    #you can like it    #just don't say it's so progressive    #it's not    #bleh    #disney    #critique  
yarrahs-life:

babybutta:

dmolech:

I did a thing for a contest and I think it turned out pretty durn cute

Well I hope you fucking win because this is a win!

This is perfect.

yarrahs-life:

babybutta:

dmolech:

I did a thing for a contest and I think it turned out pretty durn cute

Well I hope you fucking win because this is a win!

This is perfect.

  #disney    #princesses    #princess    #fanart    #love it    #hair  

eldiablocabra:

i-wanna-build-a-sn0wman:

flawlessspecter:

hiccuptherunt:

sakurasunshine:

keep-calm-and-disney-on:

HERCULES IN THE 2ND GIF OMFG

THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT THOUGH

Hercules is THE DEFINITION of a gentleman. Her dress strap slips down and HE PUTS IT BACK UP because he’s like “No, she’s a lady, she deserves my respect. Control yourself. Leave, just leave.”

Imagine if all guys/girls had that much respect for people they were attracted to…the world would be a lot better and safer, I can tell you that.

Also have to remember he’s never had a girl actually hit on him before.

2nd gif: #zeUS TAKE THE WHEEL #I NEED AN ADULT #WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS

if zeus took the wheel this would have ended much differently

HEY WHATS UP?! WANNA BANG??!!

  #hercules    #disney    #gif set    #zeus    #that comment though  
default album art
Song: Not in Nottingham (cover from the disney movie Robin Hood)
Artist: Mumford and Sons
Played: 262,243 times.

collegedisneygirl:

ohwowlovelywow:

Mumford and Sons—Not in Nottingham (cover from the disney movie Robin Hood)

PERFECT PERFECT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT

  #music    #mumford and sons    #cover    #disney    #not in nottingham    #robin hood  

whenyouwishupondisney:

our-fate-lives-within-us:

itstumblingwithgrace:

My sister and I have a headcanon that Jane is Belle and the Beast’s grandaughter.

and I think this further proves our point…

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Which would explain why she understand Tarzan, he sort of reminds me of Beast in attitude…. he is sort of a Beast… hmmm. I like your headcanon. 

I agree. Professor Porter said that she got her wild stories from her mother. Belle had wild stories, which turned out to be true, just like Jane’s story about Tarzan was true.

  #disney    #tarzan    #jane porter    #belle    #beauty and the beast    #headcanon  

tonywda:

I think doing voice work for animation is probably acting in its purest, most ancient form. It’s a bit like the [ancient] Greek form of acting, where they had masks on. In our case, the mask is the animator’s drawings.

— James Earl Jones (The Making of “The Lion King”, 1994)

  #disney    #voice acting    #acting    #actors    #voice actors  

Thoughts on ‘Frozen’

selchieproductions:

I decided to ignore anything pertaining to the film ‘Frozen’ a long time ago - the misrepresentation of the Saami in it, or rather the combination of misinformation and problematic myth-making in it did not appeal to me at all, I had already explained why I disapproved of the bastardisation of our traditional clothes at length and with far more pressing issues at hand, such as the revival of my maternal language or the fight against fierce colonialism on our ancestral lands, I neither felt compelled to nor had the time to waste more time on a Disney film which contributes virtually nothing to the cultural wealth and knowledge of my people.

But then someone submitted a post to the blog “Unpopular Opinions” here on Tumblr, and ever since, my inbox has been filled with angry, anonymous messages about how I have no right to be dismissive of the film as this unnamed person presented themselves as Saami and claimed that the film was loved by most Saami, and any critique of it was hurting the Saami.

I heavily disagree, critical discussions about representations are always needed, especially when we’re talking about members of indigenous peoples and other minorities and everything I have said about the film with regards to its false claims to Saami-ness stands, but to perhaps stop my inbox from being filled with more trite from people I don’t know, I’ll spend the rest of this post talking about ‘Frozen’ one single, last time, rather than rolling my eyes at inane messages on a daily basis.

I do not pretend to be speaking for anyone but myself, nor do I hide my identity behind a veil of anonymity. I am for better and worse fairly well-known within my own community, so I’ll say this for the last time, when I state that I find the film problematic because of how it deals with the Saami, I am expressing my own opinions.

I do not speak for the entirety of my people, nor do I actually see a problem with some Saami liking the film or disliking it as I do. 

But as for the film.

In short there are three main things that particularly bug me; the first concerns the opening song, the second deals with the way our traditional clothes have been re-imagined by Disney and the last beef I have with Disney has to do with the director’s claim that Kristoff is Saami without showing any non-fictional proof whatsoever of this throughout the entire film.

But let’s start with the opening song, seeing as comments made by the President of the Norwegian Saami Parliament with regards to it has been interpreted as her loving the film. 

In her New Year’s Speech, the president stated that ‘

‘the yoik “Eatnamen Vuelie” and Fjellheim’s musical talent is now making a whole world listen - to yoik. We are seeing the same in other cultural expressions: the Saami culture is expanding to ever new audiences’

It may come as a surprise, but I do agree with Aili Keskitalo as far as her statement goes - it is a great thing that we’re seeing our culture gaining new grounds - but only insofar as it’s being read in connection with the following paragraphs of her speech which have conveniently been left out of the quote by the majority of people on Tumblr. 

In her speech, Aili Keskitalo goes on to say that “but often we experience that stories about us are being told by others than ourselves”. In other words, while not criticising the film per se, she’s not endorsing it either as some people have been claiming - she’s merely applauding the fact that Saami music is getting world-wide attention, followed by a paragraph where she high-lights the problematic aspects of having outsiders tell our stories without our involvement in them.

Now, ‘Vuelie’, has indeed been written by a South Saami composer, this is something I personally like, especially as I as a yoiker admire Frode Fjellheim’s work as far as the revitalisation of South Saami yoiking goes, but the choir performing it is not Saami, and as such I do not see Vuelie as an inclusion of a Saami voice in the film, but rather as a way to include something which is evocative and exotic, in the same way as the opening song of Pocahontas.

My opinions with regards to Vuelie would have been completely different, had Disney employed e.g. the Saami youth choir Vaajmoe to record the song, but seeing as they chose to employ a non-Saami choir, despite having asked Frode Fjellheim to rewrite his tune Eatnemen Vuelie to better suit the magical atmosphere of the film, my opinions remain unaltered.

Furthermore, in an interview which has been circulated widely on Tumblr in the last couple of weeks the composer Frode Fjellheim clearly states that the tune itself is only inspired by yoiking, calling it ‘en jojke-inspirert ting’, i.e. a tune inspired by yoiking, rather than being an actual yoik per se. This is hardly surprising, as the tune was originally written as a choral piece, but as it is called Vuelie, which is the South Saami word for a yoik, people have automatically coded it as a yoik, despite what Frode is actually calling it.

I maintain that a tokenist use of a cultural practice that was punishable by death until the late 18th century does not in fact count as inclusion, no matter how many times people tell me to be happy about the tune, and as much as I’m indeed happy for Frode to be earning a shit-load of money from his song, I do find the way in which it has been recorded to be deeply problematic nonetheless.

I mean, if they wanted something exotic without employing a Saami choir, they could have just gone full-on with the use of Scandinavian herding calls, which can be heard more or less whenever when some magic shit is going down in the film.

Now.

Over to the clothes; I have already explained why and how the clothes have been inspired by our traditional clothes in another post which can be found here, so I won’t spend too much time examining every part of Kristoff’s clothes, but I will mention a couple of things, the first thing being his shoes.

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Kristoff is seen wearing a type of reindeer hide boots called goelke-gaamegh, or novhtegh in South Saami, but despite the fact that the shape is authentic, the lack of either shoelaces or woven shoebands and shoelaces mean that they would be highly impractical as snow would get into the shoes as they’re worn without a way to keep them tied closely to the leg.

Sure, shoes and odd clothes are hardly things that warrant any longer discussions, but the way in which all of Kristoff’s clothes seem to be almost Saami and then they’re not, well it really does not sit well with me at all. 

I was brought up in an area of Saepmie where donning a gapta (traditional dress) was seen as something bad by the majority, something which warranted fierce discrimination, and to this day there are a gazillion unspoken rules, generational traumas and basic tiny details surrounding the wearing of our traditional dresses that I find it annoying to see the dress being bastardised in the way it’s been by Disney. As much as I don’t think of Kristoff as a Saami, I’d much preferred that they had at least made his clothes authentic, or not bothered with the so-called Saami influence at all.

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Because what we now get to deal with are cosplayers who do not understand the deep, cultural codes behind our traditional clothes donning a fake version of our clothes and being applauded for it, while Saami children especially in my part of Saepmie struggle with the very idea of daring to put on a gapta in public because it’ll earn them snide, racists comments from the majority for daring to be publicly Saami.

To mention just one story of what wearing a gapta can result in, here’s one example. Last week I was talking to a friend of mine who uses his gapta regularly, and he told me how he’d worn it at a council meeting a couple of years ago when a right-wing politician had walked up to him, casually telling him that they were discussing plans on putting up new signs in a village close to Liksjoe, only they weren’t sure if the hanged Saami they wanted to put on it should be North or South Saami and seeing as my friend was being Saami in public, maybe he could wage in.

But let’s all cosplay Kristoff, why don’t we.

Finally, I would like to address the extensive myth-making in the film. On one hand Disney has done a great job at creating something fairly vapid, light-hearted and full of singable musical numbers, with an annoying yet somehow endearing talking snowman, but on the other hand they’ve made the Saami seem even more exotic and fairy-tale like by making Kristoff an orphan raised by trolls.

I mean, nice touch on writing ‘trolls’ in runes on the map at the beginning of the film, but the fact that the only supposed Saami in the entire movie is orphaned, thus stripped of a community which is essential to a Saami identity as our indigeneity is primarily communal rather than individual, and then have him being raised by fucking trolls just contributes to the idea that we’re either mythical creatures or not even real in the first place.

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But it’s a film aimed at children, the trolls were so cute.

Or something.

I actually enjoyed the song Let it Go, I liked that Kristoff was asking for consent before kissing Anna, I particularly liked the true-love twist at the end - but felt it would have been much better if the entire romantic subplot between Kristoff and Anna had been scrapped entirely, but there were so many parts of the film that I disliked that I couldn’t fully enjoy it and just sit back and “relax because it’s a children’s movie”.

The misrepresentation and myth-making surrounding Kristoff, i.e. the so-called Saami boy continues throughout the entire film and regardless of how minor it seems, it does feed into an ongoing discourse about us in Saepmie where we’re either seen as exotic or considered to be worth less than dirt depending on where you enter it. The fact that Kristoff is somehow Saami because he has a reindeer is another thing which grinds me the wrong way as this type of misinformation is already running wild over here and has been doing so for decades, i.e. that real Saami have reindeer, and it is making life complicated for actual reindeer and non-reindeer herding Saami alike in Saepmie.

Finally, for a company which claims to have done extensive research on the Saami, they’re clearly not knowing enough about us or even reindeer to know that 

  • Sven has the antlers of a female reindeer.

  • A full-grown man would not be able to ride a reindeer bull. Like ever. The belief that Saami used to ride their reindeer goes all the way back to 1540, when Olaus Magni, who had never actually seen a real-life Saami, claimed that we used reindeer as horses and published this picture in one of his books:

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    In other words, Disney is contributing to keeping yet another prejudice about my people alive and kicking.

  • Reindeer are wild animals, and even vuejeme-råantjoeh, i.e. bulls used to lead a herd of reindeer during reindeer migrations wouldn’t ever behave like a dog.

  • Kristoff’s sleigh is distinctly Norwegian, and it’s way too heavy to be pulled by a reindeer.
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    If Kristoff actually was Saami, his sleigh would probably look a lot more like this, and he’d have been using skis instead of walking.

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So.

In conclusion.

Ad finitem.

Is Frozen the worst thing that has ever happened to us as a people? Well no, but it doesn’t mean that it isn’t problematic anyway. 

  #frozen    #saami    #critique    #disney    #good read    #cultural appropriation  

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Sarah (hip_dance_princess@yahoo.com) submitted:

Your thoughts?

Full disclaimer: I have not yet seen the movie so I cannot personally vouch for how accurate this is. But from the collections of reviews and common complaints I’ve seen about it, this seems very, very accurate, and also pinpoints the details as to why Tangled did so much better storytelling-wise.

bee doo bee doo disney forgot how to write and execute a simple story

I love this. Especially because of how they point out at the end that it’s IMPORTANT that we spend the time to be critical about this movie. Disney is such a huge influence on children these days, that you simply just can’t excuse their movies with “Oh but it’s a kids movie” as if that makes it okay to give kids bad, simple movies with simple dialogue etc as if they don’t understand it.
I don’t want to be all ‘oh but back in the old days we had good movies!’ but honestly, back in the old days we did have good kid movies. Just go back 15 years with the land before time and the first disney movies - kids were NOT belittled and the symbolism and story wasn’t spoon fed to them. What was amazing about those movies, was that kids could see them and enjoy them, but so could adults as well, and when those kids grew up - they could still watch the same movies. Never in my life would I ever make my children watch Frozen as a way to give my kids, specifically not girls, morals or ethics or make them grow as people or women, because this movie doesn’t provide any of that. It’s a film that I think a lot of people are making excuses for such as “oh but it’s just for entertainment” or “just for kids” or “well disney can’t be good all the time”, and all those excuses are down right horrible. When did we come to that point where we actually have to defend Disney movies and the content they release by saying “oh but they can’t be good all the time”. Seriously. It’s not okay and those excuses are lame. 

////FLIP FLOPS THIS POST ONTO HERE because you guys wanted to know why i dont like frozen and this literally takes care of every reason i dont

this will be the only post on this blog about this subject i promise

but for those interested in knowing why i dont like it, here it is

I know I’ve been reblogging quite a bit of Frozen criticism, and while I haven’t actually seen the movie… I just really like reading up on critiques like this. I write down notes about it, kind of like a ‘what to look out for when making my own stories’ and this video is really awesome for that. So even if you don’t care about the criticism for Frozen, it’s always good to listen to good criticism for your own benefit.

  #frozen    #video    #disney    #critique    #youtube    #good read    #good video    #criticism  

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Kent Melton

  #disney    #marquette    #I think is the word    #sculpture    #hercules    #john silver  

So more about poc representation.

amazoniakat:

I want to talk about The Princess and the Frog, Mulan, and Pocahontas in comparison to the rest of the Disney princesses and the over arching messages these stories present when juxtaposed against each other.

Let us begin with the most recent of the Disney women of color, Princess Tiana. For those not familiar she is a young, poor,  black woman in New Orleans who dreams of owning her own restaurant. In the beginning of the movie she is working several jobs to save up for said restaurant. As the movie continues she meets a lazy spoiled (brown) prince and teaches him the value of hard work and how nothing is just going to fall into your lap with out you working for it.

Hmm. Okay.

Thats funny, isn’t that what Disney films have been teaching little white girls for generations? That nothing, no matter how desolate your beginnings are, is really out of reach because eventually fate will rectify your life without you even trying? Even if you fuck it up with your own selfishness (I’m talking to you Ariel). Everything will turn out just fine. Now some might say, Oh that was old Disney, what about Merida and Rapunzel? They’re active Disney Princesses. They fight for what they want. And while that may ring true when comparing them to older white Disney princesses, when you look at their brown counterpart’s storylines that bell losses a couple octaves.

Rapunzel, kidnapped in infancy and forced to live in isolation for eighteen years, uses Flynn as a ticket out of her prison and away from her mother. They escape together only to have Rapunzel’s mother (and kidnapper) find them and try to kill Flynn in order to regain control over Rapunzel. In the end Flynn sacrifices himself for her freedom and the witch dies and bla bla bla bla white male saviour. I mean the story on its own oozes misogyny. Flynn needs Rapunzel to find morals and civility and Rapunzel literally needs him to free her of her tower of repression…..eww. But I digress. In the end, every problem starts and ends with Rapunzel but everythings okay because Flynn fixes it.

Merida, Merida is the only real variation in the White Disney plot scheme. While merida is the cause of all of her problems, she is the only one who solves them. That being said, the main problem in her story is one that she causes- turning her family into bears. Her arranged marriage and original problems are kinda overshadowed by the bear thing.

Now lets look back at Tiana, Mulan and Pocahontas. they are the cause of exactly 0% of the problems in their stories. Tiana doesn’t make herself poor, Mulan didn’t start the war, Pocahontas didn’t invite those white men over for tea and crumpets. Yet they have to fight tooth and nail all throughout their movies for a happy ending. Of course, the poc princesses, even in fabricated magical stories, have to overcome adversity.

The problems they face are real problems women of color have to face: poverty, mans wars and violence, white people in fucking general. And that is why our stories don’t take place In a land far away- our stories are real places and real events because we don’t have to make up a single word to find heroism in our women. Our stories happen now, every day.

We do not get to wait for prince charming. We do not have that luxury. We do not get mythical situations. We get facts. We get warnings. We get preparation.

You know why theres only three? Because Disney is little brown girl’s first terrible, heartbreaking taste of reality.

  #disney    #criticism    #critique    #poc    #racism    #mulan    #princess and the frog    #pocahontas    #good read